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WSPR-15 in Dreamers Band
« : 10 Март 2020, 20:55:13 »
Маркус DF6NM провел интересный эксперимент, используя способ декодирования WSPR, описание которого находится здесь: http://136.su/index.php/topic,156.msg27178.html#msg27178

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On 8.27 kHz VLF, aka Dreamer's band, signal levels are usually too weak for anything but long carrier detections or dedicated EbNaut transmissions. But we have seen significant improvements in receive capabilities from three axis receivers, like Paul Nicholson's in Todmorden, DK7FC in Heidelberg, and DL0AO in Amberg. So I wondered whether WSPR-15 might also play a role there.
 
Last weekend we installed a wsprd decoder at DL0AO, driven by a dedicated 3.8 mHz SpecLab instance. After fixing a couple of stupid errors (like forgetting to bypass the FFT-filter block, and converting 8270 to 1500 instead of 1610 Hz), my weak signal was quite visible in the spectrogram, but was still not decoded. I wondered if something was wrong with the transmitted sequence?
 
In the end, I discovered that the WSPR decoder cannot cope with messages which cointain a negative dBm (<1 mW) power entry. This was possible in early versions of the software, and the WSPR-X and WSJT-X drop-down menues still go down that far. But apparently, one of the power-encoding bits has later been reallocated for new compound-type messages. So my true-power "DF6NM -20 dBm" messages were just quietly dropped!

In the mean time, several hours had gone by and the afternoon QRN had come up. So the next attempt had to wait until Monday morning. And that was finally successful, with better than expected SNR (albeit overstated power):
 
3 spots:
    Timestamp      Call   MHz    SNR Drift  Grid   Pwr   Reporter   RGrid   km   az
 2020-03-09 05:30   DF6NM   0.008270   -33   0   JN59nj   0.001   DL0AO-VLF   JN59vk   48   84
 2020-03-09 05:15   DF6NM   0.008270   -32   0   JN59nj   0.5   DL0AO-VLF   JN59vk   48   84
 2020-03-09 05:00   DF6NM   0.008270   -33   0   JN59nj   0.5   DL0AO-VLF   JN59vk   48   84
 
Can this be compared to EbNaut? On one hand, WSPR requires around 7 dB Eb/N0 for its 50 bit payload, compared to ~ 0 dB for EbNaut, which could be five times faster at same power. On the other hand, requirements on frequency/phase stability and symbol timing are much more relaxed, so you can get away with a freerunning samplerate and manually initiated start of transmission.
 
The DL0AO decoder continues to lurk for WSPR-15 signals in the 8260 to 8285 Hz band. The next step may come soon: Stefan has been preparing to send WSPR-15 from his DK7FC/p earth antenna, and chances are that this can be decoded both in Heidelberg and Amberg.
 
All the best
Markus

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Re: WSPR-15 in Dreamers Band
« Ответ #1 : 11 Апрель 2020, 10:28:48 »
Он там писал позже, что проводил эксперименты с этим рельсом на 5170 Гц.
И более успешно.
Из прежних экспериментов именно на этой частоте они достигли максимального QRB.
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Re: WSPR-15 in Dreamers Band
« Ответ #2 : 23 Июнь 2020, 10:04:54 »
Новый эксперимент Стефана на 8.270 в WSPR-15:

Hello VLF,

Since a few hours i'm also running a WSPR-15 Linux based autodecoder at 8.27 kHz. From my VLF database i post-processed the latest transmissions of DL0HOT. To my surprise and happyness i actually decoded multiple transmissions.
After the recent distance record by DK7FC > DL0AO (283 km), this is now the latest record distance for WSPR-15 at VLF, 323 km.

Congrats to the crew of DL0HOT.
It is not easy to get such distance at VLF in late June. And there are only a few (just 2?) RX stations and, so far only 3 stations successfully transmitted WSPR-15 at VLF.
Hopefully the transmissions will continue.

For the reception of that signal i built a dedicated cardioid beam from the E and H field.

73, Stefan

15 spots:
Timestamp   Call   MHz   SNR   Drift   Grid   Pwr   Reporter   RGrid   km   az
 2020-06-22 11:00     DL0HOT     0.008270     -41     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 10:30     DL0HOT     0.008270     -40     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 08:30     DL0HOT     0.008270     -34     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 08:00     DL0HOT     0.008270     -34     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 07:30     DL0HOT     0.008270     -33     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 07:00     DL0HOT     0.008270     -33     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 06:30     DL0HOT     0.008270     -34     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 06:00     DL0HOT     0.008270     -34     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 05:30     DL0HOT     0.008270     -34     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 05:00     DL0HOT     0.008270     -34     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 04:30     DL0HOT     0.008270     -35     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 04:00     DL0HOT     0.008270     -35     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 03:30     DL0HOT     0.008270     -35     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 03:00     DL0HOT     0.008270     -36     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
 2020-06-22 02:30     DL0HOT     0.008270     -39     0     JO60it     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     323     243
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Re: WSPR-15 in Dreamers Band
« Ответ #3 : 07 Август 2020, 11:56:03 »
Hello VLF,

I just got the highest SNR ever by DL0HOT:

Timestamp  Call  MHz  SNR  Drift  Grid  Pwr  Reporter  RGrid  km  az
 2020-08-06 07:00    DL0HOT    0.008273    -22    0    JO61    0.001    DK7FC_VLF    JN49ik    377    235
 2020-08-06 07:30    DL0HOT    0.008273    -23    0    JO61    0.001    DK7FC_VLF    JN49ik    377    235
 2020-08-06 06:00    DL0HOT    0.008273    -24    0    JO61    0.001    DK7FC_VLF    JN49ik    377    235

An amazing signal. They can run up to 3 A antenna current into a 40m high T antenna with 1400 pF.

The signal would be easily detectable in QRSS-3.

Everyone in a radius of at least 600 km should be able to decode it.

73, Stefan


UPD


VLF,

Meanwhile DF6NM joined the team:

5 spots:
Timestamp   Call   MHz   SNR   Drift   Grid   Pwr   Reporter   RGrid   km   az   # Spots
 2020-08-06 07:30     DL0HOT     0.008273     -30     0     JO61     0.001     DK7FC_VLF     JN49ik     377     235     40
 2020-08-06 07:30     DL0HOT     0.008273     -32     0     JO61     0.001     DL0AO-VLF     JN59vk     242     200     45
 2020-08-07 02:00     DL0HOT     0.008273     -38     0     JO60it     0.001     DF6NM-VLF     JN59nj     194     216     1
 2020-08-06 07:30     DL0HOT     0.008273     -13     0     JO61     0.001     DL7NN-VLF     JO60is     81     193     46
 2020-08-06 15:30     DL0HOT     0.008273     -22     0     JO60it     0.001     DL3JMM-VLF     JO60mr     25     111     16


5 stations so far. Who is the next one?

73, Stefan
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